Osho Shivo is an enlightened mystic, who finds immense joy in spreading love and harmony. He is a channel of cosmic intelligence, manifesting as the path of love and divine pleasure.

He conducts workshops based on couple meditation, which transport the lovers into the divine paradigm of love and pleasure and hence awakening the power, intuition, sensuousness, creativity and intelligence in them. In his understanding, love is the only antidote to the current whirlpool of depression, the majority of population seems to be going through.

Shivo is an osho sannyasin, currently going through the intense spiritual journey as a part of Oshodhara Sant Sangha.

You are invited to join him for an interactive chat on related topic “Facebook- An Era of Complicated Relationships” on sat 19th June 10PM. You can also join him on his facebook account.

Interview

Sarvesh: Generally we associate morality with love. A person who intends or has more than one lovers is looked upon as a person with low moral values. However, it appeals to common sense that love should have no limits whatsoever. How come society came to the conclusion that having multiple lovers degrades the morality? What went wrong?

Shivo: We have not yet understood the deeper meanings of love. In the mind of humans, when it comes to man woman relationship, love almost means lust. So, when there is a lot of exploitation and manipulation in the name of love, it is good that society has put such limitations. It requires a very high social consciousness to sustain freedom in love. Very often, it was noticed in the past, that more than one lover were desired for lusty reasons. So it was natural that they were regarded as immoral.

Sarvesh: That’s true. But isn’t sex too an intrinsic part of a man-woman relationship? It sometimes becomes very difficult in a man-woman to distinguish between lust and love. Moreover, considering sex as the natural desire of human beings, do you want to suggest that one may have as many lovers as one wants, but must stick to only one, when it comes to sex? How will human consciousness evolve towards this?

Shivo: Sex is a very beautiful dimension which exists between man and woman. The problem is not in sex, problem is in how we deal with sex. Is sex a tool of exploitation and manipulation or is it like an innocent play and worship of beloved? If the focus is on fulfilling own desires or gaining power by way of sex, then obviously it is sin, as you have employed the immense energy of sex towards selfish means. However, when one is focused on giving pleasure to beloved, the energy beings to rise through chakras and not only it gives immense pleasure but higher divine dimensions begin to open up. So, one must differentiate between animal sex and divine sex. When one is in such a state of deep surrender and devotion, lover’s soul begins to become one and they taste the true ecstasy of life,

Sarvesh: Yes. Shivoji, the institution of marriage, though criticized severely these days, is still a reality of the society we live in. How do you view the concept of having multiple lovers in the backdrop of marriage? Can they both co-exist?

Shivo: Marriage is an institution based on insecurity. Even though it is collapsing, there seems to be no alternative to that. Though, because of advent of mind consciousness since 1991(as described in Mayan Prophecies), people desire to have more than one lover, but they are not ready to give the same freedom to their partners. They are still living in insecurity and possession. So, even though they may want more than one lovers for themselves, when it comes to the longing of their spouse or lover, same longing is condemned. So I would say, though society desires more than one lover, it is not yet mature enough to build the foundation for such a society, where love could be free. Marriage and multiple lovers can co exists, if one lives in deep love and devotion. And if one is selfish and manipulative than multiple lover is a sure way of getting agonies and disruptions in life.

Sarvesh: That was really a hard hitting explanation. Shivoji, one question that often comes into my mind is about the ‘procreation’ process. In today’s society, procreation is almost always the result of marriage. Nobody would like to be called an ‘illegitimate’ child. If we promote the multiple lover consciousness (without the institution of marriage), how will procreation take place in this world?

Shivo: If you understand the divine science of taking birth, the great soul, choose the parents who are deep in love, they are not bothered about, if they are married or not. So, love is always more important, as it is divine, while marriage is a social institution. If children are born out of true love, it will be easier for great souls to arrive in this world. In high consciousness society, people will not be bothered if the child is born out of marriage or not. They would rather be concerned, if the child is conceived in the moments of deep love and surrender.

Sarvesh: Well Shivoji, I am definitely impressed by your views. But till now you have been telling us about the ‘WHAT’ part. Now I want to know from you the ‘HOW’ part ? What would you suggest a young boy/girl who is about to begin his/her youth life. What would you suggest me, as an individual, who understand and appreciates your view on multiple lover but still have no clue as to how to LIVE that idea practically?

Shivo: One need not worry on the HOW part. One just need to live authentically with deep faith in love. If love is true, it attains a peak and then it morphs into friendship. So, if you love a person truly, you will pass the peak one day and you will arrive at a deep friendship, which is even more valuable than love. And than naturally, you will be attracted to someone else. Every lover is helpful towards the quantum leap of consciousness and if love is true, it will change form when that evolution is over. Than it is the time to move on to the next affair of life. If society can live such a consciousness, than the pace of evolution will get multiplied.

Sarvesh: Deep friendship is more valuable than love. There is not even an iota of doubt in this. I always feel, and many more would agree with me, that its the women, more than man, who find tremendous security in marriage. Its a public perception that women have the tendency to ‘settle down with one man’, where as men, by tendency, are wanderers. Is this true? How can women come to terms with the idea of having multiple lovers, when their basic tendency is to ‘settle down’ ?

Shivo: It is very true that woman look for one man, while man look for many woman. The basic difference is that man treats woman like a trophy, so he wants more and more of them and woman treats man like a security provider, so they wont give up their hold on him. Both of them are operating from low consciousness space. Once woman begins to feel secure, even she will have free choice in the matter of love. We have seen that as woman has become more free financially, the concept of one love no more exists. But she is still depending on man emotionally, so she finally wants to settle down in marriage. With the evolution of consciousness, woman’s insecurity will begin to transform into love and hence it will bring freedom to be with many lovers and multiply their own pace of evolution.

Sarvesh: So, from what you have explained so far, I find that the key to conversion from single lover paradigm to the multiple lover paradigm is the ‘evolution’ of the consciousness of the masses itself. Has the process began? Whats the current scenario in a country like India? Are people opening upto to this and do they want to accept it as a way of their lives?

Shivo: Well. Process has begun only partly. Now, when the mind consciousness has arrived, people desire multiple lovers, but they also feel lots of guilt about it. Year 2012 may see the advent of consciousness, which helps people understand the truly divine paradigm , which may give them freedom to love freely. Such a love will go beyond physicality and will help people take quantum leap in spirituality.

Sarvesh: That’s it from my side. I hope one day we will find ourself in such a highly evolved society which respects love and freedom much more than petty insecurities.

Shivo: Well, I wish I can see such a society within my life time. Thank you very much for your insightful questioning.

Sarvesh: Thank you for making this topic so clear, especially for the younger generation who would be the pillars of tomorrow’s society. It was really pleasuring talking to you.

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